5sfe turbo help

[st185_fan]

im trying to find out if the stock turbo setup on a 3sgte will bolt up to my 5sfe i know the head can be swapped but are the rest of the parts interchangeable

[Darkest Edge]

If I remember right, certain generation 5S-FE block will not bolt up with 3S-GTE head directly w/ out modification, or will not at all.  Some of the 3S-GTE head ports, for oil and/or coolant, might not align correctly with the 5S-FE engine.  I do not remember exactly, so you might have to do some more research on it.

[st185_fan]

i've done the research on the head swap and they are a direct swap even the head gasket is the same i went to autozone and had them cross reference the two engines and they are the same model number for the head gaskets

[Darkest Edge]

I did not mean anything about you did not do research.  I hope you did not take it the wrong way.

"The blocks are of the same family and are based off of the S series block design (3S and 5S). The 5S has increased deck height (taller block), and a .5 overbore. Those are the only major differences between the two, aside from reinforcement ribs and such. The internals are also different, the 3SG blocks having much stronger internals being a performance engine while the 5SFE has a longer crank (longer/bigger stroke). The stroke increase and the bore increase is what makes the 5S block a 2.2 liter as opposed to the 3S block which is 2.0. Now, because they are from the same family of blocks, the water passages and such are all cut the same way (or at least, very very similar). They line up more or less. Because the cuts in the block are the same, the cuts in the head are the same. Refer to NEVERSTOP's picture of the combustion chambers. Even though the two heads are completely different, they share similar cooling passages in the head because they share the same block family...

On a side note, Toyota did do a revision to the 5S block in the later models. I forget which exactly, but I think it happened in 97 or 98 or something like that. This was the last block revision for the 5SFE and these 5S blocks, as I'm told, do not line up to the older 3SG heads. The later model 3SG heads (3rd gen, BEAMS, possibly ST205) may line up to the last revision, meaning they may not line up to the older 5S blocks..."

Link:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t16388.html

[st185_fan]

i understand what you meant.  I did my research with the same gen 5sfe and 3sgte comparison but the only thing i couldnt get info on for the comparison is if the exhaust manifolds are interchangeable.  I want to keep my 5sfe head and block and add the turbo system off the 3sgte but before i spend money buying it i would like to find out if they match.  have you heard of anyone doing this sort of swap.

[Darkest Edge]

Do a google search on "5SGTE".  Different forums dicusses the hybrid motor.  A good amount of them were on Celica forums.

[st185_fan]

i know about the 5sgte and ive seen them run but im looking into the 5sfte i think i can build one with a good amount of power and im not gonna stop until it smokes my gtp

[Dr Tweak]

I'm quite sure that the exhaust manifolds do match up, yes.

-Doc

[st185_fan]

thanks now i just need to find one

[st185_fan]

In my 1990 toyota celica gt i just rebuilt my 5sfe with the stock head and a remanufactured short block.  i took the cruise control out when i reinstalled the motor because it didnt work anyway, now the throttle cable is to short and causes the car to idle at like 3000 rpm.  i want to get a longer one but cant find any 90-93 celicas in my local yards and toyota wants 150 dollars for one anyone know of another car that i can take the cable from and not have to modify anything to get it to fit.

[Dr Tweak]

Any other Celica GT should work, or you could try a Paseo or Tercel, but you'll probably have to modify it to fit on the gas pedal end.

-Doc