Idiots of Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift

[Darkest Edge]

I wonder how many more kids will try to get into drifting after this movie.  How many will get in stupid accidents trying to do drifts in unsafe conditions.  Fast And Furious series really messed up the import scene badly enough.

[GrandLordKhorne]

The sad part is having lived in Japan and been part of the auto scene there in the past, I know they will mess it up even more than the first movies did to ours.  But What I'm really holding back for is the slew of retired laws that will fallow the dumb kids...  The first movie screwed up my car club already, the second saw an increase in how often I'm pulled over and harassed.  I’m expecting a slew of complaints from my Japanese friends about how gay it will be and another increase in harassment…

Personally, some one should fined the retard F#*^ looser that rights and the one that produces these movies, tie them to the back of a car by there feet and go auto crossing for a couple of hrs….

[asg14]

^ I second that.

[Tercel Drifter]

I bet by the end of the summer stupid kids will be sideswipping into SUVs.  The first two increased drag racing on the street like crazy. this gives a bad name to imports. Though it seems that there are some domestic vehicles in this film as well.

[corollamadness]

waste of move, waste of money & waste of thread lol.

im wait until its on bootleg spend 5 bucks to see whats up wit it and then trash it or pass it along.

mr. driftking lol

[GrandLordKhorne]

$50 bux says it couses more problems, I go nuts and a group of us go on a F...ing commando raid to kill the fags that keep writing this crap...  I will bring the guns, I have 4 street sweepers and a couple of M4's (Don't ask)....

[Lau77]

I find the past two to be absolutely outrageous and fake...

Watching F&F reminds me of a really bad plastic surgery gone bad. Real bad.

[Dark-Hawk]

Bring the movie I say, I could give two ****s, it's just going to allow me to sell my car for more money.
I plan to buy another 240 in the near future, swap an SR20 and some other mods on and then sell it for 50% more than I put in .

[excelon72]

personally i think it isnt the movies fault i enjoyed watching all of them for one reason or another. im 33 have had 4 project cars 2 went over 5 digits one wayyy over. i think its time for the moron kids who do illegal **** to take credit. the movies were very entertaining and for those of you who were old enough to remember a day when you could not get aftermarket parts for anything....while your whining about the damage the movies did, they gave us HIN, they gave us thousands of parts for even the weirdest cars. and most of all the dragged the manufacturers back into the fast compact era. STOP BEING LIKE YOUR PARENTS AND BLAMING THE MEDIA BLAME DUMB ASS RETARDED KIDS WHO TRY THE DUMB **** THEY SEE IN THE MOVIES WITH HALF ASS CARS.

[excelon72]

I have been in the "scene" since before there was one when a tub of bondo and some wire mesh made a body kit or if you were luck crooked ass fiberglass. when the only way to go fast was NOS or engine swaps. the movies made the manufacturers give us the SCION, SRT4, SVT FOCUS,COBALT and others. this will be my 16th  year modding cars. back then it was a pos 87 crx, carborated lol , then it was my grandmas 92 accord had that puppy doiny 7.5 seconds 0-60 woohoooo. lol really everytime a hobby gets big all these people try and make it seem ike everyone SOLD OUT. thats crap. selling out is how you can buy a bumper for a few hundred and not a grand like BACK IN THE DAY. movies are why i can get 300 horse out of a celica for 5 grand and not 20k. and its funny half these "PURISTS" werent even out of kindergarten when i was tuning lol.  THANK GOD FOR FAST AND THE FURIOUS. they were  fake, horribly acted, unrealistic, horrid plots, and enteraining as hell. granted they did spawn crap like stupid  cheap universal mods which i detest.

[GrandLordKhorne]

I going to disagree with you excelon72.  I to was in the ‘scene’ before it became what it is today and I don’t think the F&F movies gave us anything to be happy about compared to what they have taken away.

Before the F&F movies there where plenty of mods and parts available if you know where to look.  I had an Integra GSR pri F&F1 and almost anything you could want was available for it.  In fact I had intake, headers, exhaust, supercharger and short shift, all of which was bolt on parts.  After the Integra I stepped up to my 911 and if you could imagine it they made it for that car.  Than the first F&F movie hit.  At the time I was using my Integra GSR as a daily driver and my 911 was for the weekends at PCA meets.  All of a sudden the price on my Integra went up, which is fine and dandy other than the insurance hike, but at the same time the market was flooded with cheap BS parts so every one could make there car look F&F.  All of a sudden you had a whole isle of garbage at the local parts store and good high quality parts did not change for either price or availability.  Then the high quality stuff started slipping and now it is hard to fined top end parts.  Having said that, I just priced out a supercharger kit for the GSR I had (have since sold), it was within $100 of the price I paid for a very similar kit about 1 year before F&F1 and the main difference is you have the choice of 4 hose colors to pic from now, where it used to be black only.

Now what changed the most after the F&F movies came out.  Well, cruising night in Denver got canceled when they made a law that you could not drive up and down the main drag for fun (due to huge traffic increase caused by ‘street racers’).  Car shows got invaded with 10K civics with coffee cans and paint.  We saw a marked increase in tickets for things they did not previously ticket for.  At least my aria saw a huge increase (something like 23%) in car crashes in the first 6 months after the movie hit.

Now you said we got HIN out of it… Well before HIN, at least in my aria, we had Friday night car cruise and meet, which involved imports and domestic alike and had a hot girls contest, occurred once a month and rocked the hell out of HIN.  We also had Sonics Tuesday night car show and my car club put on 4 major events a year. And you say that now you can build power more cheaply… Well maybe on a couple of models, but for the most part, good reliable parts have come down in price very little and conversely, we can no longer mount what we need to push that power on our cars without attracting the attention of the police.  Pre-F&F the cops used to hang out with us, check out our motors, talk Sh!%e with us and even close back roads to let us race.  Now they want us to pop our hoods so they can make sure we are not running any band or none smog parts…  We also have new laws that make it illegal to modify your exhaust, tune your ECU or anything to that extent in many arias.

Personally, I would rather the movies had not been made, the parts where a little more expensive/rare and the cops would leave us alone.  A lot of the old coulter and love for cars is gone and we are left with posers and morons ruining it for many of us.

When my Supra was hit, I did not buy another because I was sick of being pulled over and told that I was doing something wrong just because I had a sporty import.  That is a pretty steep price to pay so you can save $20 by getting an AutoZone intake instead of having to pay for an AEM (which they had back then, all be it only in gray).

[GrandLordKhorne]

Also I will blame the media...  There will always be dumb kids, that is not something you can change.  But the media can be changed.  What I'm blaming them for is enabling.  If they where more true to the real coulter and showed both sides of the coin, they could make an entertaining movie and take some responsibility for the ideas they put out there.

Yes, the dumb kids are responsible for there individual actions, but the media is to busy being greedy to take the time to think about there actions as well, which is just as bad.  You can not blame one link in the chain of stupidity without recognizing the others.  It falls under the same sort of category as peer pressure.  If billy pressures timmy to do the cool thing and take drugs, than billy is just as responsible for timmy doing drugs as timmy is for doing them in the first place.  So what makes more sens, to say: there would be less drug use if timmy was not a retard or there would be less drug use if billy did not spend his days convincing the timmys of the world to do drugs.  Both are true, but only one is something we can do something about, so why wine about there being dumb kids (unless your going to kill them all off) instead of saying wait a minute, quit giving the dumb kids dumb ideas and maybe they will do less dumb things.

[asg14]

F&F is crap.  Since those movies I have seen such an increase in POS cars with body kits and 10" exhaust pipes.  ****, I have a relatively stock Camry and I have these Dame F&F Ricer Civic's try to race me DOWNTOWN with pedestrians.  Also since that movie Honda owner's think they are all that.  They ALL blast me for modding a Camry cause I own a "family" car and thier's is a "sports" car.....Wonder where they get that from....

It's also the reason I have upgraded but STOCK rims on my car.  Cause I can't afford to attract the attention of the cops because I drive fast (not reckless, there is a MASSIVE difference).

One person I know came out of the theater after F&F Tokyo and there was a PT Cruiser being drifted by a kid that was int he movie.  Head on itno a cement wall.  I blame the media for killing the few common sense brain cells the lil sh1theads in the country have left.  I also refuse to associate myself with those groups of people.  I'm also 23.

[Darkest Edge]

I'm definitely going to get flamed for this.  I now own a Civic bubble.  I'm not going to say much about it, but what I got was a rare find.  But I still drive around my Corolla around.

Honda people are a mixed crowd.  There are newbies, which destroyed Honda owner image, and those who are experienced.  There are good amount of good Honda people, who know their stuff and willing to help other Honda people and other groups if they have experience with them.  

There was once a video on this forum on the turbo Camry.  The guy is first a Honda person.  He is on Honda-Tech.com.  Forgot his username.  After working with F/I on Honda, he applied that knowledge on the turbo Camry.  

There are a lot of people on Honda who has knowledge of different imports and domestics.  Some originally did come from working on domestics.

The main reason for those people think Honda's are the best, because parts are easily available for them and at good prices.  Also a wealth of knowledge is available all over the web, if looked carefully.  It is so damn easy to find out anything you want about Honda or can be easily answered correctly at certain forums.

Before F&F Honda did have aftermarket parts available for them.  It would have grown with out the F&F movie series.

F&F movie did not do their research carefully.  The who street racing image did get screwed badly.  Kids immediately try to copy what they saw.  Some, as they gain experience, did outgrew the F&F image protrayal, but not all.

The media aided in the F&F protrayal by covering the not so great aspects of what kids try to copy.  The main cataylst was the movie itself.

To explain myself.  I love Toyota first then Honda.  Most of my knowledge gain about performance parts and combination did come from the Honda crowd.  A lot of technical article are alway written by magazines or Honda owners themselves.

I will defend different sides of car manufactures.  It is such b/s on how people will hate different manufactures.  There will always be those who think one manufacture is the best and no others.  But each manufacture have different unique traits among them.  I will always give respect to different manufactures for certain aspects.  But I will admits some of these traits will give the edge to  that manufacture.

I am tired of typing right now.  I will add more if I feel like it or if I have to defend myself more.

[excelon72]

hey you bring up some good points. But any hobby that goes mainstream is gonna have moron kids that hack it up. if your a pothead......some moron who could not afford pot started huffing glade and spray paint freakin idiotic... if your into stereos.....for every ONE guy with a good system there are 50 ghetto blasting trunk monkeys who actually think a trunk full of crappy amps and miswired subs is a system. if you play table top wargames like warhammer seeing the little kids with their prepainted mageknight figured butchering even those simple rules. there are a lot of reasons why the ff damaged the scene, mostly due to bad taste and caviar dreams with burger king salaries. but personally as one who has worked i the automotive field for 14 years, it not for those movie we would not have some of the tuner cars we have today. despite what the minority purists might think there is only ONE reason manufacturers do anything......MONEY. if the "scene" was still small and "PURE". chrysler would not have made the srt4, toyota would not have made scion, Mazdaspeed would not have been born, and from talking to a nissan rep for one of our dealerships a damn good chance the 350 would not have been released if not for the popularity imports are enjoying. thats partially casue domestics suck lol. anyway nowadays even if you dont own a honda (yes im a honda hater, not the car or company but all the retarded kids in stupid civics) you can get any part you want the selection and price and availability are outstanding. But i completely agree 100% about the damage it caused. cops hear exhaust tone and think they are in a chase scene from FF and harass you for no reason and every single thing on my car is 100% free state inspection legal. so i do see what you mean but i think we should judge entertaining movies as that and retarted kids who try to act like their in movies as that.

[corollamadness]

lol i went to the movies to see this movie i have to say i like it more then part 1 or 2. the only part i was like wtf was when they was drifting with an evo aint the evo AWD? anywayz movie was good cause wasnt no undercover cop trying to take down a drug king or anything like that & i like when they was speeding and the cops went after them and then gave up, i wonder if its really like that out there in tokyo?

[excelon72]

lol not sure never been there. i liked part one's story and cast and plot better than 2, 2 was ok mainly casue of the highway scene and the scene were they all came out of garage. but 3 was very entertaining , the cars were sick thwe chicks hot as hell, and your right no cops lol.

[Darkest Edge]

Yes, I will admit, some cars possible would not been here because of the movie.  But some car would have.  Some high up Subaru people in the company said if it was for Gran Turismo popularity, the WRX turbo would not been in high consideration to bring in the USA.  This was said in a TV interview I saw in the past.  Some cars would have came, but it might have taken time.  There is really no way to know right now.  Everything happened already and can not change the past.

[asg14]

Darkest, The Turbo Camry is Tony (Tony The Tiger), with the 1994 400HP 1MZFE Camry.

One of the few car modifiers I respect is a Honda Guy through and through.  He knows his crap and will help anyone, not just with Honda's.  Just that most of the Honda guys are AHoles, but some are damn cool.

[puertoricanrolla]

the 3rd movie was definitely alot better than then the first two. i've been to japan but never witnessed a police chase but i have seen videos from Top Secret in japan which they had a rb26 powered Supra going about 160-200mph on the highway and 1 lonely cop car trying to chase him down obvisouly the cop had no luck. although i have to say from what i saw in japan they came really close to reproducing that on screen.

oh by the way they use the EVO with rear wheel drive modication so they eliminate the all wheel drive system in order to drift and they also do the same to the WRX, and Skylines

[excelon72]

funny thing is the entire movie was shot in los angeles.

[GrandLordKhorne]

Just got back from movie... Having lived in Japan... That was nothing like it.   That was about as well researched as the notion that the world is flat...

Ya, as a movie, fun to watch once or so.  But if I had a choice, I would opt for no movie and less harassment.

Personally, I have no problems with any brand.  There are some I would not buy, but so what.  I have 2 Toyotas, 1 Honda and a Mazda.  I don't buy Honda any more because I do not like FWD (The one I have is the CRX we are blowing up).  I don't buy domestic any more mostly for QC issues.  So what...  So if Honda came out with something I like I may buy it....  hating a brand is dumb.  I hate the dumb people that give a brand a bad name.

And in some arias of Japan, they have Supa's and NSX's to chase down the fast cars...  Which by the way really do not have a lot of places to run to unless there off in the mountains some place.  The chase like that Supra, are the exception, not the rule. Having said that, I witnessed a chase between a 3000gt and cops in CO that got up in the 130mph+ range and was just as wild as what you see in the Japanese vids.  We probably have many more of them here than they do there.

Personally I wish that movie makers would take more responsibility for making a movie that is both truthful and entertaining...  It would not have been that hard to make the FF more realistic and still quite good and it could have been vary good pre-damage control.  Instead they just make what ever so than can make a buck and we are stuck with the consequences.  From what I have seen of the world, real life can be 1k times more exciting than any movie writer can come up with. If hey had brain 1 in there heads they would go out and fined the **** I’m talking about and make movies about that.  Like spec ops movies, sorry guys but real spec ops people do **** the movies could never dream up.

[excelon72]

i agree the movie was unrealiztic, but then again i kinda like unrealistic in movies i got a lot more realism in my life than i like. so if i wanna go see a movie that freakin real ill stay home and watch the damn news. i dont pay 9 bucks to watch real life lol. real life is paying to fix some jackass kid who screwed up the car mommy and daddy bought him and now i gotta pay through the nose to fix it right. ohh i dont hate hondas at all awesome cars just dislike strongly this universal cheap ass, home made, hacked up half-ass car scene the civic seemed to ahve spawned. if i see onore stinkin bubble old ass 90ish civic with no hubcaps, slammed with nothing but a melon shooter piece of crap universal muffler get up on me thinking hes tough im gonna scream. not realizing hes gotta spend like 6 grand on the engine to get it to even match me from the factory. anyway thanks for the rant lol. the movie was cool as a movie but not in no way shape or form is it a documentary on anything but how holywood can twist the coolest things into sellable mass produced marketed crap. yes im in a mood today lol my car is sick and i have gone 48 hours without my stereo.

[Darkest Edge]

LOL.  I just have crappy stock speakers in my bubble that are blown.  Also it has a old horrible cassete player. (Yeah I know I probably spelled 'cassete' wrong, but it suck old technology)  Radio listening is just as bad.  Same stuff all the time.

I have no money to get any stereo equipment for it right now.

[excelon72]

hey there nothing wrong with not having money bro. nothing at all. but if you have no money and buy crap dont front like its the bomb or disrespect someone who has the topshelf stuff by insulting it and making the cheap universal half ass crap to be the same as the topshelf that guy busted his hump for. most of my life i have had no money for car stuff after a 15 years of working i do, and ill be damned if some punk kid with a 50.00 melon shooter universal Piece of **** muffler is gonna front like its better than the 600.00 TRD exhaust i bought for my celica. No man ROCK on with the cassette deck dude, nothing wrong with it but when you do have the money take it from an old guy DO IT ONCE, DO IT RIGHT.

[Darkest Edge]

This is going off topic.

Truthfully, I do not need really high end stuff.  I have a good amp I am going to transfer over later.  Right now got Eclipse speakers.  Head unit, my friend going to give me his decent one, for temp use.  All I am waiting for is to get enough money for an Ipod.  Once I get one, I will hook it directly to the amp.  I have no need for radio listening anymore.  My corolla is constantly being filled with CDs.

If your wondering, the head unit in my corolla is a good one, Kenwood, but the belt that flips the panel broke.  I was going to get it replace, but one of my parents misplaced it.  So if I put it on the civic, the panel will always be shown.  Not a good thing to leave open in a bubble.