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dragonrolla
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« on: September 24, 2003, 02:27:49 PM » |
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i am looking to change my suspension a little...
i just dont know whether i should get some sport type springs or get coilovers....
i cant get lowering springs b/c my car is low as it is already
which is better?
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laz
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2003, 02:45:41 PM » |
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Well, all sports springs are going to lower your car. With coilovers you have a choice as to how low or high you want it to be. Remember you need to get new perfomance struts with your springs to avoid a crappy ride. Also stock struts are not designed to take the higher compression of coilovers or sports struts, so they will wear out in not time leaving you with a bouncy ride.
Suspension upgrades are not only done for looks, or should not only be done for looks, but actually as a performance upgrade.
Going 70 MPH while taking a curve and not having your car bouncing all over the place: PRICELESS!
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2003, 02:53:38 PM » |
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Whadaya mean low already?
Eibachs = 1.3" drop
Coilovers = 0-6" depending
H&R = 1.6"
B&G = 1.6"
Intrax = 1.75"
Apex = 2.0"
I wanna check out someones coilovers, cause I heard the ride is harsh and if they are anything like B&G's I couldn't take it daily driving.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2003, 03:19:39 PM » |
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Whadaya mean low already?
The thing with Dragonrolla's ride is that he has a kit and it sits low already with the stock suspension. I think is the same problem that njtony had. That is one of the reasons why I am staying away from a kit, the way I drive I would tear that thing to pieces in no time!!  And My car sits low already. Rob was telling me that my back wheels are tucked in as I drive in the expressway! You need to take a picture of that Rob next time we roll together! |
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njtony
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2003, 05:05:46 PM » |
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yeah i m facing the same problem my car is 4" above the groun so say i lower it 1.5-2" it will be 2" above the ground that's not good!  the only 3 solution i have think of is 1) coilovers ..but it must be good one like ground contrl or even the TEIN damper kit, otherwise u will be suffering when driving 2) fender flares to hide the wheel gap..my friend did it on his car look good! 3) polyurthane bumper, which does not exist :cry: |
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2003, 06:01:35 PM » |
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I say go with good Coilovers if adjustability along with performance is what your looking for. Otherwise go with springs and save yourself money.. I love my Ground Control Coilovers and they handle magnificant, with not as much harshness/bounce as i expected.. Yes it is firmer rougher than spring but not nearly as harsh as what some people describe, although mine are $370 Coilovers not the $100 ones u see all over..
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dragonrolla
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2003, 10:57:10 PM » |
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ok... so i got one question... i saw these coilovers i like and can afford.. from what i read they are decent quality... now i have the question that was posed by xavier.... how quickly will my struts wear out?  and it looks like im going with coilovers... cuz i cant have even a 1/2" drop!!! |
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2003, 11:00:05 PM » |
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3) polyurthane bumper, which does not exist :cry:
Tony, time that you learned how to make polyurethane bumpers man!! :lol: |
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laz
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2003, 11:10:35 PM » |
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ok... so i got one question... i saw these coilovers i like and can afford.. from what i read they are decent quality... now i have the question that was posed by xavier.... how quickly will my struts wear out? and it looks like im going with coilovers... cuz i cant have even a 1/2" drop!!! Ok question? Why are you looking at coilovers if you do not want a drop on your car? And is your ride not good now? THe concensus on all the boards is that people that have done the stock strut/coilover setup would be able to do it again would do it right the first time around. There are a lot of stories of people getting crappy rides, and blowing struts because of the difference in hardware. Of course there are also the few people that said everything went OK, but in the end they ended up swapping their struts anyway. So, it's up to you. You have a unique situation in that you can't just get struts/springs because of your kit, but if you get coilovers you are going to keep it at the stock height? Anyway, of you don't mind going to the labor of doing it again if a strut blows, or if you don't mind if the ride turns out crappy then go for it. You will never really know unless you do it. My advice stil stands. New coilovers, NEW STRUTS. Just my 2c's |
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2003, 08:30:00 AM » |
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is dragonrolla the guy w. the angel eyes if so ill leave it at is and maybe go w. bigger rims thats my 2cs.
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dragonrolla
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2003, 03:23:04 PM » |
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bigger rims?!?!?
hmmmm.... i dont think that i should do that... see... in order for them to not bottom out... i would have to get a real low profile tire....
and i wear out tires like crazy.... im... a little bit of a... well... i drive alot.... and i have a tendency to be a lead foot... that is why my tires are so damn thick... they have 80000 mile life... i could probably get them down in 25000
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2003, 03:27:04 PM » |
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Aaaah! So you want to change your suspension so you don't bottom out anymore? Is that it? Hum, that is a problem. Screw it then, just get a whole air suspension and call it a day! :lol: |
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dragonrolla
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2003, 03:30:36 PM » |
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8O 8O 8O 8O air suspension???!!?!?!?
what is this that u speak of?
its not some star trek thing is it?!?!?
the only thing i thought of to help prevent bottoming out is buying this t-shirt that says... "no fat chicks... car may scrape"
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2003, 03:37:29 PM » |
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air bags=air suspension. it is made of a tough material tire like. Really hard to pop. basically like hydros only no big ass pumps in the trunk, at least i dont think so. supposed to be the best ride you could even imagine.
holla
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laz
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2003, 06:54:37 PM » |
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8O 8O 8O 8O air suspension???!!?!?!?
what is this that u speak of?
its not some star trek thing is it?!?!?
the only thing i thought of to help prevent bottoming out is buying this t-shirt that says... "no fat chicks... car may scrape" Here is a link to a yahoo store that has airbags and the systems, as well as a showcase of cars. It also sells other things like imported lightbulb paint for getting the bulbs in the color that you want. Check it out it has other stuff as well. http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/bodkitandspo.html?AID=5802673&PID=1264614 |
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njtony
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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2003, 07:03:18 PM » |
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actually ride on AIR BAGS is the WORST ride
u can ever imagine...u can easily blow stuff and damage stuff
if u ride over pot holes and bumpy roads...
they are very flimsy!!! the the ride quality is
worst than $45 ebay coilovers
the only advantage is the ability to adjust ride height
with a couple of swtich.
that's ride most ppl with airride don't drive it on the road
they only have it for show!
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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2003, 09:22:03 PM » |
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This guy I knew had a old subura ......a
can't remember brain not quite working
but it had air suspension and it was pretty cool
thing I didn't like is the damn computer would keep track of your average speed.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2004, 08:53:56 PM » |
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And i just noticed this post is realllly old.. hehe i gotta stop by here more often I ended up going with Koni struts and tein springs which ended up costing about 1,000 after installation, beautiful ride though, had to take off my 17 inch rims due to rubbage in the back :? couldnt even take off with 3 people in the back.. would rub before i left my drive way. Was fine when i first got it but then it settled in and all hell broke loose. Got the Koni struts off www.tirerack.com If u want to check out the drop, with rims, heres a pic of my car http://members.cardomain.com/c0rolla01 and with out rims, the drop looks like http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4505001358&category=6445P.S. Buy my car  |
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2004, 09:08:53 PM » |
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And i just noticed this post is realllly old.. hehe i gotta stop by here more often I ended up going with Koni struts and tein springs which ended up costing about 1,000 after installation, beautiful ride though, had to take off my 17 inch rims due to rubbage in the back :? couldnt even take off with 3 people in the back.. would rub before i left my drive way. Was fine when i first got it but then it settled in and all hell broke loose. Got the Koni struts off www.tirerack.com If u want to check out the drop, with rims, heres a pic of my car http://members.cardomain.com/c0rolla01 and with out rims, the drop looks like http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4505001358&category=6445P.S. Buy my car :stupid: j/k greg, but yeah this is an old one.........hahahahaha |
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